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Bente Roycroft - From English Major To Tech CEO

• Julie Fairhurst • Episode 162

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What if confidence isn’t a starting point but a result? Julie sits down with CEO Bente Roycroft to unpack how saying yes before you feel ready can change your career, your company, and your capacity. Starting with an English degree and a $20-per-report job, Bente learned HR, finance, and operations on the fly, helping grow a tiny environmental firm to nearly 100 people before stepping into the world of managed IT services.

We get into the real stuff leaders face: imposter syndrome that lingers, “valleys of death” on the growth curve, and the difference EOS can make when the visionary and integrator roles are clear. Bente shares how she transitioned from client to co-owner at Accurate, scaled the team to 60 people across Edmonton and Calgary, and maintained a strong culture by hiring, selling, and even firing in alignment with core values. If you’ve ever wondered how to stay authentic while making hard calls, you’ll take notes.

Then we shift to practical wins. We define technology debt and why “it still works” is a trap for small and midsize businesses. You’ll hear a simple security stack, MFA, strong passwords, tested backups, timely updates, and cyber insurance that reduces risk without bloat. For founders navigating change, Benta maps a playbook for clarity: explicit accountabilities, tight communication, and an accountability chart that prevents dropped balls. She also reveals a favourite modern tool, using AI as a thinking partner, to pressure test plans and surface blind spots before you roll them out.

If you lead a growing team, run a services firm, or just want a braver relationship with the unknown, this conversation will meet you where you are. Subscribe, share with a founder who needs a boost, and leave a review with one action you’re taking this week.

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Julie Fairhurst – Speaker, Author, and Founder of Women Like Me

Julie Fairhurst is a champion for women’s empowerment and the founder of the Women Like Me Book Program. Since 2019, she has published 30 books and 300+ true-life stories—at no cost to the writers—giving women a platform to heal, inspire, and reclaim their power. Dedicated to breaking generational trauma one story at a time, Julie’s mission is to uplift women emotionally and financially, helping them create better lives for themselves and their families.


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SPEAKER_00:

Hi everyone, I'm Julie Fairhurst and welcome to another episode of Women Like Me Stories and Business. I'm really excited today because I know we have so many of you fabulous entrepreneurs who watch the podcast and you're on the podcast, but today we have a lady who is going to be able to give us so many tips and help us uh to uh to gain in our success. So today we are talking to Benta Roycroft, and she's a powerhouse leader and a CEO who spent two decades building and leading uh companies with purpose and being authentic. So thank you, Benta, for being here today. Was there anything else that you'd like to tell the audience before we get started?

SPEAKER_01:

Oh man, I'm I'm so grateful to be here. So thank you so much for having me, Julie. Um yeah, let's let's dive in. Let's let's go through it.

SPEAKER_00:

Perfect. Okay. So um, so your first job, I think it was or career uh out of university was with a company called Navis.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes.

SPEAKER_00:

And so what did they teach you about leadership and resilience?

SPEAKER_01:

Oh man, so much. So, so much. So I uh I graduated um with an English literature degree, and there is not a ton that one can do with an English degree right out of university. And so I ended up moving out to Edmonton, where there was tons of work. And um, through some relationships, I was able to get this job with a uh an environmental scientist who was looking for someone to write some um technical reports. And so I was paid something like$20 per report. It took me about six hours to write each report. It was not the best return on investment. However, it was these, these, uh, these scientists and me. So it was a very, very small group. And um and the way that we were able to grow as an organization is uh we ended up getting this contract in the oil sands. And when when we got that contract back in the day, then we had to hire a whole bunch of people. And so they the scientists were out there doing the work. And so they said, hey Benta, can you do, can you figure out how to hire all of these people? So I'm Googling how to hire and Googling how to, you know, do different different um aspects of HR and get them all oriented and all that stuff. And um uh, and so eventually I ended up doing um learning how to do the bookkeeping and all the things. And so we started to grow this business. So we grew quickly from four people, um, and then I think we were up to around 50 people or so, and I I uh started to pursue an MBA um so that we could figure out what we were actually doing with a little bit of strategy and education behind it. Um, and so the lessons, you know, going back to your question about what what I was what I was learning about leadership and resilience at that time, um, it's it's really that you can do so much if you just put your mind to it. I had no experience uh doing HR, doing books, doing any sort of strategy, um, figuring out how to grow a company, even dealing with the leases, dealing with the um the vendors and uh and clients and and all of that. Um, but you know you just put yourself out there and you can make it happen. And so I put in a lot of work and I leaned on um on the people around me and we kind of struggled through together. And uh we ended up growing the company to about a hundred people um before it was sold. And uh, and so it was an incredible experience. And I think that one thing I I I latch on to in this in this story um is that I know so many women that are not um comfortable applying for work or uh or trying things that they don't have experience or training in. And um, and I'm just you know, I I really don't think that you need the education and the training and the experience to get your foot in the door. Like you can try, you can give it a go, just do it, and um, and you're gonna be able to uh build up the confidence that you need, um, even if you don't have all of that experience right out of the gate. So uh so yeah, so that's I I learned a ton at Navis. It was a great experience for me for sure.

SPEAKER_00:

That was great, that was just great advice. You know, it's just because so often people will read these advertisements and then they'll go, Whoa, like I can't possibly do any of that. I don't have any of that experience. But but you have the life experience, you have the tools that you might need uh to do the job. And I love that. Just apply anyway. Who cares if they say no? Yeah, if you don't apply, you will never know. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, such great advice. And so thank goodness for Google, right? Oh no, I mean to know, really to be able to and to and for you to just go, okay, now I've got to figure this out. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, and and you can figure things out. I think that that's the even now, um, in in my um current role and in my current organization, um there isn't anything that we can't figure out, whether it's through our networks, people that we know, um, it's still, you know, I don't have a family of entrepreneurs. I am the first one. And uh, but but my family still has a ton of experience and and um wisdom that they can share. I'm part of different groups that I can also um glean tons of experience shares from. Um, and so just being able to hear from other people how they would tackle situations and uh and and tons of reading, right? Like that's it's you you can figure things out if you think through it.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Huddle your way through.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Well, tell us what you're doing now because you've got you've um uh gone in and started another company with someone or or jumped in there. So jumped in, yeah. Jumped in. Tell us where you're where you're at.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, so the the company that I was with previously, uh, one of the things that we struggled with as an organization was our IT. Um, and so we were looking for um for any IT company that could come in and uh and just be normal, you know, like a lot of IT people when they when they uh come into your organization, they want to prescribe a lot of things and um and they don't really understand your business. And so we were a small business, but we were a growing business. And so we needed an IT company that was gonna come in, meet us where we are, and kind of grow with us. And so uh I got someone's business card, um, Luke Williamson, and I gave him a call. And at that time, it was just him and one other employee that he had. And so he came in and he started doing RAT. And we just loved him. And so um, so I worked with Luke as a client first, and um, and then when Navis was sold in 2014, then Luke approached me and asked me if I would um buy into his business to accurate and help him grow uh grow this company. And so um, so long story short, I I moved over to uh to accurate and moved from the environmental sciences world into IT. And so we have um, so now we are we have uh offices in both Edmonton and Calgary. We have about 60 employees now. We've done we start growing with uh a couple of acquisitions. Um, and so it's been it's been an awesome journey so far. So and so what do you what do you do? What what kind of services do you offer? Sure. So we do uh we do any sort of um uh network design and then any support that goes through go that goes along with that. We'll also do uh you know, we'll we'll help out with the cybersecurity. That's a huge thing right now. And uh and then strategy is another massive part of uh IT right now because there's so many directions that companies can take IT, whether it's with AI or or you know, um uh really getting into the security space depending on what which industry you're in. And so so we'll offer the gambit. So I focus um more so so if if you're familiar with EOS or traction, we're definitely a traction shop. And so uh Luke is the visionary, I'm the integrator, and so he's out there um uh in in the communities a lot and doing some some awesome things in Edmonton and Calgary, and uh and I focus on how we're gonna structure and build the business.

SPEAKER_00:

Wow, what a great team it sounds like.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I've been very lucky with my business partner for sure.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. So do you work um, sorry, just gonna take a little sip of water here? So do you work mainly with with larger companies or do you do you work with smaller startup companies? Like who is it that you're helping out there?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, so we started when we first started, we were we were working with a lot of smaller organizations. Um, and as you know, it this is an 18-year-old company now, and and we're kind of like an 18-year-old um uh teenager, right? Like we've really we've grown to that point, and so uh we have way more structure, we're kind of on our own, we're independent doing all of these things, right? Um, and so when we started, we were doing a lot of, we were working with a lot of smaller businesses, and as we've grown, we've our our companies, um, our clients are getting larger and larger. And so I would say that the average uh size is anywhere between you know 50 and 200 uh users. Um that's that's generally who we are working with at this point. Wow. Yeah, wow.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, that's big. That's that's definitely so so you were you're the CEO. I am, yes. Yeah. So was there a moment in in this new career of yours where you said, I don't know if I can do this. I don't know if I I don't know, I don't know if I'm built for this. Because you get, you know, you come from that that uh a completely different working environment, I guess I would say, right? Yeah. And uh industry, I meant to say. And so, and then and now here you are doing this, or you're you know, so how like well, how did you develop or where did that confidence come from?

SPEAKER_01:

Uh such a that's such a funny question. I just feel like um um it's a great question. It's just it's uh it hit home it hits home because confidence is not something that comes naturally to me. So I would say that when I was um uh when I was younger, then um I was, you know, the the kid whose report cards would come home and be high grades, but then the comments would be like Benta speaks too quietly and Benta doesn't speak up enough in class and all of these things. And she doesn't really interact too much with um with other kids. And so um what I I was I was always very anxious to be around um too many people and to be with people that I felt intimidated by. And so uh so the confidence, I think, you know, going back to that first um story, it comes with experience and just putting yourself out there because the reality, I think, and I'm sure that you experienced this as well in your entrepreneurial journey. Um when you, you know, when when we started out, then I think that things were going pretty well, you know, like we're we're pumping along and things are okay. And then you hit this little valley and we call it the valley of death. And it's like this is either gonna kill us or it's gonna make us stronger. And so that might be, you know, hiring your first um really high overhead person, like a finance person, right? You're suddenly gonna spend, let's say,$70,000 on someone and you haven't spent overhead money on uh someone like that. And so you're gonna spend a chunk of money and you're you're a small company, and that's terrifying. And it's either gonna go really well or not. And so you kind of go through this valley and and you don't know if you're the right person to run the company because are you making the right decision? Are you hiring the right person? Are you looking for the right skill set? Um, all of those questions come into mind, come to mind, and you get through it, and and then you kind of carry on in the journey and you hit another valley of death. And that next valley of death is harder and it's more complicated because suddenly you have more people, you're dealing with, you know, um 40 people, and you have more um more uh clients that you're dealing with, and you want to make sure that you're doing the work well. And so with every single challenge that we face, I think that we realize that we are um we are capable of doing more than we think we are, and we are um, and and if we get through this challenge, we're gonna be more equipped to take on the next challenge. And so every single, you know, we've gone through some um even a business model change that was a huge change for us. We've gone through some leadership team changes where, you know, it's an it's really disruptive to the entire company. Um, but with every single change that we go through, um we learn, we get better, and we get a little bit stronger and a little bit more confident to to uh take on the next challenge. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. So did you feel then in the beginning like you were a bit, you know, did you have a bit of that imposter syndrome going on? Like, what the heck am I doing sitting here?

SPEAKER_01:

Sometimes I think that imposter syndrome is like I don't know if it ever leaves. I I wonder if it's something that is just a, you know, just part of part of life. Um, because I often feel that where it's like, okay, am I am I equipped to take on this next this next thing? I don't know that I'm the right person. I'm gonna be found out now because um, you know, I I'm not actually like I'm not an IT person, right? And so for me to be running an IT company um is uh that that comes to mind a lot. I've never run a company um as the CEO this size. Um, and and so for me to, you know, just boldly go is um not, you know, like of course I'm not uh equipped for that. But at the same time, if if not me, then who? And um here I am. So let's just let's just do it, you know.

SPEAKER_00:

I think, yeah, I'm sorry, sorry, I just yeah, no, that's great. I I think imposter syndrome, I think you I think you're right. I think we all have it, you know, somewhat in us, and I don't know if it ever really goes away. And as you were talking, I was thinking about my years in the beginning of real estate. You know, I would knock on the door to go into my appointment. Yeah, when the door opened, I had to become a different person. Yeah, yeah. I was, I could not be, you know, I was still me, but I had to I had to, I'm gonna call it act. Right.

SPEAKER_01:

Fake it till you make it, fake it till you make it.

SPEAKER_00:

You had to, you had to, and so, and so I think that I love how you talk about, you know, that you felt it and you and you don't know if it never ever goes away. And I think you're absolutely right. I I you know, I thought, yeah, you're absolutely right. So I think for anybody listening out there, the lesson from what us two here are saying is don't let the it don't let imposter syndrome kill you. Yeah. Don't let it overtake your life.

SPEAKER_01:

I think that's exactly it, because I think that you can you can um fall victim to imposter syndrome and let it be a ceiling for you, or you can or you can just break through that and and try. And you don't have to go crazy, but just keep um, you know, in atomic habits, the the book um so he talks about casting a vote for yourself. And I love that idea because with every vote that you cast for yourself, um, that you're able to do something, then you're no longer faking it. It doesn't have to be a big, bold thing, but if you can just do a little bit more than you think you can, um, then you're casting a vote for yourself that you can do more than you think you can. Yeah. And uh, and the more you do that, I think the more um comfortable you get doing things that you don't feel ready to do. And um, and I think that's that's so important because um especially today, we hear so many podcasts and things about uh messages about being true to yourself and um living out your values and doing these things. So I think it's really important to do that and do it do it honestly. Um, and what I mean by that is uh you don't have to trick yourself into believing that you can do things, you can actually do the things that are um going to uh break that ceiling for you and live live out your values, doing whatever it is that you are doing in the realm that you are doing it. And so um, yeah, so I referenced this like fake it till you make it idea. And there's some truth to it, but at the same time, it's it's not fake if you're doing it if you're doing it, do it.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I totally understand what you mean. I totally understand what you mean. And and really, if you think about it, like anybody who's gone and gotten a brand new job, like my husband has a zillion years in in this industry that he's in. And the first he he went to this, got this new corporate position. And I remember the first day he came home, his eyes were like, What have I done? Like, and he knows he knows probably 80% more than anybody else uh that he was surrounded by yeah, but the but it it was just the the newness and the and the systems and all of those things, and so you just you know, you just like you gotta just go with it, yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. Oh, well, that is just great advice. So now you talk about blending strategy with being authentic. So, how do you stay true to yourself in an environment that often rewards people being conforming?

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, uh, that's that's a great question. I think a lot of companies, a lot of organizations talk about core values. And I think that as a as an entrepreneur, I'm um and a business owner, I'm fortunate in a sense that our business values very much align with my values. And so um I think that's important for employees as well, though. You know, if you are, if you are joining an organization and you want to um live out your uh live your career well and do your career well, it kind of has to align with who you are as a person and and the values that you have. So if you really care about quality and you're going to work for a really, you know, um an organization that values speed and price over quality, that's gonna be a challenge for you, you know. Right. And so for um for me to come into accurate and to um and to lead well, it means that I'm leaning towards my core to my core values. And um, and and the beautiful thing is that the core values that I have really do align with our company core values. And so we're not so much looking to conform as it is to build a um an organization that that fits fits us. And um and our and it's true to our clients as well. Like our clients know our core values and uh and we sell to our core values, we hire to our core values, we fire to our core values, all of that, all of that is true. And um, and our our closest clients are the ones that share those same um that same sort of mentality. And so uh so yeah, so it's not so much about conforming as it is about just just building up that um organization that you're proud of.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I guess for for people who come along, yeah, you can't, it's it's very difficult to work somewhere if you're if your values don't align because then you're not happy. And if you're not happy, then you won't be there for long. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. So do you so what do you think is one of the is one of the biggest mistakes that corporations make when it comes to tech? Or just or just small businesses, what or businesses in general? Like what kind of mistakes? Yeah, yeah, what are we doing wrong out there?

SPEAKER_01:

I would call, I I would say tech technology debt is a real thing. So a lot of times people want to save money on um on technology because their their computer works, even though it's out of warranty, it's fine, you know. Um, I'm gonna save a uh a little bit now just so that I don't have to deal with it later. Or um or just so that I don't have to deal with the the financial um cost. And the longer you put you put technology on hold, um the the the riskier your situation becomes. And because we rely uh as organizations, we we tend to rely so heavily on technology now. And so thinking about the, you know, the the security um uh impacts that your organization would deal with if you did not have your um your files backed up properly, if you don't have your um your software up to date and uh and all of that, like that that all creates technology debt. And so you really have to be thinking forward about what you're gonna require from a technology standpoint. It's kind of like insurance. If you don't have insurance on your um on your house, then if something happens, you're gonna have to spend a whole bunch of money, right? And you might not get everything back. Same thing happens with technology. If you are not paying into your technology and keeping it up to date, then you're gonna end up like there will be something that happens, whether it's some sort of a security breach, um, something breaks down, you lose your files, you can't get them back up. Um and so, yeah, so it's it's hard to look after things that aren't that don't seem broken, you know? And uh and so um, but it's important to do it before it's broken. So it's it's important to be a little bit more proactive when it comes to the technology.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, for sure. I think that I think that in general, that's a lot of the way so many of us live. Yeah. Well, if it's not broken, don't fix it. Exactly. You know, yeah. I remember I remember in real estate going, well, does it work? Yeah. And it's fine, but but it's really old. Yeah, not our problem, go buy something new then. Yeah, you know, but in reality, it's gonna break. It is, it is eventually it's eventually it's going to break. And I think that you're so right. It's now now that's a totally different little scenario. But when you talk about businesses and and corporations, like even for myself, I'm I'm a small entrepreneur, I've got a couple of people working with me, but I have I have books, I have manuscripts, I have you know, databases, all of those kinds of things. And heaven forbid, oh a friend of mine who is uh big on social media, yeah, thousands and thousands of followers, she got kicked off Facebook for nothing. Nothing but guess what happened? What happened? Her business was gone because she was relying on social media on that social media, yeah. So so it's the same similar type of thing. Like heaven forbid, you've got a big corporation and all of a sudden all their contacts are gone.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So you need to have backups of those things, you need to make sure that you've thought through all of the um components that are important to your business um so that you have a recovery plan in place, all of those things, right? Yes, and and basic security measures too. Like it doesn't uh you don't have to go crazy, but I think that if you know MFA, multi-factor authentication, those types of things are are are very, very, very important for businesses to um to take the right steps towards being secure.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. What would you say to the small entrepreneur out there, kind of like me, who's just, you know, moving along? Like what kind of things do we need to keep an eye out on? Or what should we be looking for?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Well, I mean, I think the things that I would be looking at depend it depends on your environment, right? Um, and depends on on how you're set up. Um, but but keeping your data secure, making sure that you have good backups for everything, that's super, super important. Um the the way that um that scammers are are moving, um, it's real and we see this a lot. And so making sure that you do have um, you know, strong passwords, um, strong password protection and multi-factor authentication, those types of things, that's that's key, of course. Um, there's also, you know, like now you can get cyber insurance. It's something to look at depending on how on how um how how much your business might be impacted in the event of of a breach. Um but yeah, like those those are just minimal things, looking to make sure that your your technology is up to date. So um, and that's because a lot of the upgrades and updates won't happen if if your um equipment and hardware is is too out of date, right? If it's unsupported, then it's not even gonna get any of these upgrades. And those are important.

SPEAKER_00:

Um I have a I have a little laptop that I need to take to somebody. Exactly. It's been a couple years now. Sure. Yeah. That's fair.

SPEAKER_01:

You're not alone.

SPEAKER_00:

So no, I know, I know. That's the problem, though. Yeah, yeah. And and I think too that that uh so often, especially with the smaller entrepreneurs, I think sometimes they just think, oh, that's not important.

SPEAKER_01:

It's not gonna happen to me. It's not a big deal. Yeah, exactly. So and and even larger organizations think that too, right? But with every person that you add into your organization, you're just compounding the the risk because a lot of them are um, you know, they it just it just grows with every new computer you bring in, with every new person and their uh experience with with technology, what they're downloading, all of that.

SPEAKER_00:

So yes, yeah, for sure. Yeah. Wow. So let me just check one more thing here that I had. Yeah. Ah, so founders, that's what I wanted to talk to you about because I I were I I deal a lot with founders. So so I I guess it would be like small business found, but the people who are founding, like I'm the founder of the Women Archie Stories and Business, right? Yeah. So so what would you say to founders? How can they start, how can they be more have more clarity through all the chaos that they're dealing with?

SPEAKER_01:

Oh man. Okay, so what I would say, clarity in the chaos that they're dealing with. When we are going through times of great chaos and change, I think the most important thing for us is to know our roles and to know uh so so thinking about our our accountabilities and uh and leaning on each other so that we have the clarity of what our expectations are. So much comes down to expectations. So if if I as um uh so I Luke is the president, I'm the CEO. And if uh and Luke is the founder as well. And so he has a very set. Um, a very clear set of accountabilities. And I have a very clear set of accountabilities. Our leadership team all has a clear set of accountabilities. And oftentimes what happens is when we're changing things or things seem chaotic, it's because the accountabilities become somewhat unclear. And so then you begin expecting things from people, and they are not expecting those things of themselves. And so having an enormous amount of communication and clarity around who's doing what and why, I think that that is uh is very important. Um so yeah, and and I feel that for sure in our leadership team, when we're talking about um, you know, we're we're bringing in this new customer journey at accurate now. And uh and in this customer journey, there's so many uh nuances and changes that we have to make at so many different uh levels of the organization. And so uh and and things get missed because you don't know who's responsible for it. And because no one was responsible for it previously, and so now we're adding this thing, and it's a small thing, but it makes a big difference.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

And so um, so clarity on expectations and accountabilities, um, lots of communication. Luke and I talk um all the time, we talk very regularly, and uh and we stay aligned. And so um, so I think that that's also very uh key to keeping that clarity in in chaos.

SPEAKER_00:

And and I think too, that's fabulous advice for growth. If somebody wants to start to grow and you're gonna bring people in, it's you know, we're it's it's funny because as an entrepreneur who works, you know, by themselves or with a very small group, yeah, it's all in your head. Yeah, you know, and so you think, oh well, you know, and you think they know, but really they don't know. You have to train them and teach them and tell them and and and bring them into the fold. Exactly. Exactly. Rather than yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Have you ever have you have you dabbled in AI at all? Chat GPT? I have, I have, yes, yes. Have you ever done like a master prompt where you're you say to Chat GPT, act as my business partner? And oh my goodness, no, but I'm going to. Okay, yeah. So, so you know, it's it's kind of a cool thing because because even if I'm trying to get some clarity in my own mind, yeah, um, and I'm not necessarily ready to talk about about it with other people, I might throw it into Chat GPT and say, okay, act as my business business coach. Um, I have a 60 person MSP, we manage service provider, and we are uh wanting to change the um the structure on this side of the business. Um this is what I'm thinking. Tell me what I'm not considering or tell me what the risks are here. And then it'll populate a bunch of things. You can talk back and forth to it. Um, but again, it like it just kind of helps frame things differently because that bounce back and that sounding board, I think, is super important. So even as a solo um entrepreneur, um, you always have AI.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, you know, and when you were talking, I thought to myself, you know, for those people who maybe are are are want to grow or they want to make these changes, but they're in fear and they don't want to talk to somebody else about it, yeah, throw throw it in there. Just don't don't take it as the Bible, but you know, but but for sure it can like it can help to give you some different ideas, a different thought. Oh, I never thought of it in that uh in that way because we're just we think in the way we think.

SPEAKER_01:

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00:

Exactly. Yeah, oh that's a I love that advice. That's a great that's that's great. That's just fabulous, fabulous advice. Yeah, I'm gonna I've got a women's network that I'm going to on Wednesday night. I'm going to tell them all that they should all do that. I think that's that's very good. Yeah. Okay. Well, Dante, this has been fabulous. Is there anything that you would like to share in closing? Um, oh, I I know I have one more, one more thing I want to say before that. So can did your company can they work anywhere?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. So we we mostly work uh in Alberta. We do have so most of our um most of our clients at least have their head office in Alberta. So some of them will have um branch offices in BC or in Ontario or Saskatchewan. And so we have partners that will be able to support uh those those uh offices, but um, but remotely we can work anywhere. Yes, and if the cut if the customer needs boots on the ground, then we have some partners across Canada.

SPEAKER_00:

Wow. Yeah, that's the great thing about the internet. Yeah, we can work, we can work with anybody anywhere.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, it's true.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So okay, so now what I wanted to say was that Bante's information is going to be in the show notes. So you'll be able to reach out to her if you have questions. Uh, if you're interested in possibly looking at getting some safety for your company and your system, you can always reach out to her there as well. Uh, so that will be there. So don't be shy. As you can see, she's she's uh open, she's fabulous, and she's helpful. And um, and so don't be shy and reach out with any questions that you might have for her. Bante, what would you like to say to all of our fabulous entrepreneurs out there that are listening in closing?

SPEAKER_01:

I think I would just uh encourage everyone to um put yourselves out there and um bolt the go even before you're feeling ready to do so.

SPEAKER_00:

I love that. I love it. Well, thank you so much for being here and being willing to share your wisdom um with everybody. I there's so many, I learned some, I just love this. I just learn stuff all the time. So I yeah, so I certainly did learn some things that I'm gonna be able to think about and maybe put into practice for myself. Um and uh and so thank you so much for being willing to do this and to give us your time. I appreciate it so much.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, thank you so much for having me, Julie. I appreciate it.

SPEAKER_00:

You're welcome. Okay, everybody, we're gonna sign off now. So we will see you again next time on the next episode of Women Like Me Stories and Business.