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DAYNA APRIL - Why Your Body Is Smarter Than Your Brain

• Julie Fairhurst • Episode 131

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What happens when a corporate professional steps away from the startup world to help women reconnect with their bodies' wisdom? 

Dayna reveals how her transformative "traffic light" approach helps women understand why they feel stuck despite their best intentions. When the mind shows a green light for a particular path, but the heart flashes red and the gut signals yellow, we experience the frustration of mixed messages that prevent forward motion. 


Dayna April is a somatic movement guide and transformational leadership coach who helps leaders unlock their greatest power through the wisdom of the body. With a blend of executive startup experience and a decade of training in somatic practices, Dayna’s work integrates nervous system regulation, embodied presence, and conscious leadership.

Her coaching approach, rooted in somatic attunement, helps leaders rewire their power relationship, shift long-held patterns, and fully align with their life’s work. Dayna’s workshops and retreats are designed for high-capacity individuals who are ready to slow down, tune in, and access deeper knowledge for more intuitive and purposeful leadership.

Dayna is also the founder of The See and Be Seen Club (S.A.B.S. Club)—a group experience that invites people to be fully witnessed in their truth while honoring the brilliance in others. As a certified postpartum doula and practitioner of Ancient Lomi Lomi, Dayna brings a deep reverence for healing and life transitions into her work.

Instagram: @daynaapril_ or https://www.instagram.com/daynaapril_ 

Website: https://www.daynaapril.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daynaapril/

Free sensation tracking practice: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKtVnkX2k3Y&t=2s

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Speaker 1:

Hello everyone, welcome to another episode of Women Like Me, stories and Business. My name is Julie Fairhurst and I'm your host, and today, oh my goodness, I've got a really smart lady today that's going to be able to answer a lot of questions for us, so we're going to dive in quickly, but let me tell you a little bit about her. So now I forgot to ask you, you pronounce it Dana, I do.

Speaker 2:

I know it's got a Y in there and it really flung people off, but you nailed it Perfect.

Speaker 1:

So Dana April is a transformative guide who helps individuals, communities and companies establish, repair and deepen their mind-body connection to access their full potential. So we all certainly need that. Through coaching, corporate workshops and soul-nourishing retreats, she empowers others to show up in the world with greater authenticity authenticity, sorry about that confidence and impact and her work is rooted in the belief that when people are connected in their truth and values, they become unshakable. I love that. So thank you so much, Dana, and welcome to Women Like Me.

Speaker 2:

Thank you so much for having me. I'm so delighted to be here with you and your listeners and your audience, and I'm just excited to dive in. Okay, perfect, now do you want?

Speaker 1:

to tell us anything else about yourself.

Speaker 2:

Oh, my goodness, where do I even begin? What can I tell you about myself? I will just say that I am so in love with the work that I get to do and I feel so privileged to have gotten to this place in my life where the work that I'm doing is actually regenerative. Like it's taken me a long time to kind of find that. I was in the corporate world for about a decade and kind of doing a lot of personal development and work on the side and I just feel so, so, so fortunate that I've found a way to kind of merge my two passions and now the work that I do truly like fulfills me in so many ways and that just feels like such a gift.

Speaker 1:

That is, and is that not, what we all should be striving for? Yeah, absolutely. Well, I'm happy to hear that. Okay, so your journey into coaching and consulting is very inspiring. So what was the pivotal moment that made you switch from that corporate world to doing what you're doing?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, great question. So I was in the startup world, like I said, for about a decade and always like the first employee in working at really early stage startups, which there's inherent risk in that. Yeah, so I was working in the startup world and the corporate world for about a decade and I was always like the first employee at these startup companies, which is amazing because you're really on the ground floor and get to see and actually create, you know the company from the ground up. But there's inherent risk in it too, right, these are early, early stage companies and so few of them make it.

Speaker 2:

So at the end of last year, my whole team got laid off and, as you know, happens and um, and it was the golden opportunity, right, like I like to really think of things as is this a challenge or is this an opportunity, and I really felt the opening to finally go after the thing that I have been so passionate about in my personal life.

Speaker 2:

So, yeah, I finally found this opening right and to me it really did. It felt like an opening to pursue the thing I've been so passionate about in my personal life, right, I've spent years and years almost a decade training in somatic movement, meditation and doing a ton of coaching for myself, and I just saw it was like literally the clouds parted, there was a ray of sunshine. I was like this is my shot, this is my chance, like this is the opening that I've actually been waiting for and I may not have taken on my own, had the opportunity not presented itself in this very, you know, backwards way, maybe you would think, but I saw it as like, oh yeah, now I get to go choose this.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I have been let go from a job, fired once, and I remember I cried all weekend, I was devastated, but it was the best thing that ever happened to me and I think that and you're right, had that not happened, I would not. I wouldn't probably be sitting here, happen I would not, I wouldn't probably be sitting here. And and my I have a family member that went through a relationship breakup, losing a job after 24 years and their poor little doggy passed away. And I spoke to my family member who, of course, thought the world was ending and all I could say was congratulations, you weren't happy in any of not the dog, but your relationship, and you hated your job. Like congratulations, the world is just going to open up for you. And that person said, yeah, you're right, and it's been a couple of years now and much, much happier. And I think that's you know, it's hard to see when we're going through that kind of thing, that that this might be happening for us.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely it's. I was actually talking to a client about this yesterday. You know it's really a mindset shift to be able to see the world through the lens of things are happening for me. I will say I also let go of a relationship last year, so I had two major legs of the stool taken out from under me and I could have gone into what is going on right, like oh my gosh, my world is ending. But I really saw it through the lens of like wow, everything that's not in alignment with me is shedding right. And it's like I kept getting lighter and lighter as these things were happening.

Speaker 2:

And it's a choice it really is a choice to see the world through the lens of. This is an opportunity. This is happening for me. What can I learn from this? And it's a choice to look at it the other way and I will tell you that, like one of them, you're going to come out. You're going to move faster through things, right, you're going to start seeing the opportunities everywhere, and the other one is going to shut you down. It's going to take way longer to come out of that and everything's going to seem like it's just piling on and piling on.

Speaker 1:

Yeah for sure, yeah, no, it's, it's, it's, and and it's hard, right For people to go through that. But but you're absolutely right, it's the way, it's the way we can look at those things and and yeah, I know it's very hard for people going through- it Absolutely Not to discredit that at all, not at all.

Speaker 2:

No, and it's absolutely valuable to take the time to feel the feelings and process Like. I'm not saying that. I definitely do that with all my clients. We take the time. It's necessary. You don't want to skip over because it'll come bite you in the ass later.

Speaker 1:

Yes, exactly yeah. So how do you help individuals uncover and embrace their true selves?

Speaker 2:

Oh, great question, Because it's one of my favorite things to do. So a lot of women in particular I work with, they'll come to me saying I have these dreams, I have these goals, I have these visions, but I can't seem to be making progress on them, and I don't understand why. And this is where I really see the somatic work that I do come into play. Soma is from the Greek word that means body, and so what I'm trained in is the mind-body connection and how we can actually utilize the wisdom of the body to make decisions in our life, to take aligned action. And so what I see happen is that women will come to me and they'll be like I just don't understand, things are not happening in my life, and I will take them through a process using a variety of tools. So sometimes it's movement, sometimes it's breath, sometimes it's meditation, sort of like body-based meditation, and we kind of start to uncover well, my head is saying this like I think I want this, or a lot of times things are coming from should, I should want this, so we, that can be a big hook. And so we start to unwind like what, what my mind thinks I want? Right, the clients will say this is what I want.

Speaker 2:

And then I start taking them into the body and we find there's a whole other story going on in the body, and so it's kind of sometimes I describe it as like a traffic light, where it's like you have a green light right.

Speaker 2:

You're like, yeah, this is what I want Green light.

Speaker 2:

And then we go into the body and your heart is a red light and your gut is a yellow light Right, and we're like, oh, that's why I'm not making any progress, cause there's actually parts of me that are like, no, we don't want this, maybe it's not safe, maybe it's not actually aligned with who we are. And so that's the process that I really take women through. Is we kind of we find out what's really going on? And for me I've only found that, like I found the most effective way to do that is to go into the body and see what's there, and from that place we start identifying, well, what would it take and what do I really want to make a? You know, three green lights like go, and then you start really seeing women making moves Right, because once you sort of have that mind, body, spirit, alignment, things flow, they really start and women feel so connected to who they are and their authentic wants and desires and needs, and then we start making action plans on like great, how do we go make this happen?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, oh, I love it. So how do you, how do you help to figure out what part of the body like are you going? Are you assisting them through meditation, or yeah, exactly, how are you finding that out?

Speaker 2:

So, I will. I start many of my sessions with a practice called sensation tracking and I'm happy to guide you through it or guide your users through it. I also have a little free audio that I'm happy to send to all your audience so that they can get some practice in this. So sensation tracking is a beautiful way to start making the mind-body connection, and what it is is it's really separating our emotions and our feelings and our thoughts from the physical sensations in the body.

Speaker 2:

I like to give an example where people are like I feel anxious and I'm like, okay, okay, that's an emotion, that's a feeling, that's a thought. What does it actually feel like in your body? And then oftentimes you know they'll say, okay, I feel a tightness in my chest. And we still generally tend like, when you say I feel anxious, we generally have a negative connotation with that right, right, yes, of course, even if, even when you say like, oh, I have a tightness in my chest, some people will still have a negative connotation with the word tight, right. But I like to say, if it was a windy day and I was holding onto my hat tightly, is that bad, is that negative, is that wrong? No, sensations in the body are neutral. They're neutral. So tightness is actually just something our body does. It expands and contracts all the time. It's how our heart beats. It expands and contracts. You could say it gets tight and loose and tight and loose.

Speaker 2:

So this is one way of helping women to start to disassociate these negative connotations we attach to thoughts and feelings and just start to become present with the sensations in the body and we start to neutralize and separate what's a sensation that I can just be with. And science has actually shown that our system only needs 90 seconds to process a feeling, to process a thought and to process a sensation. So if we go on any more than 90 seconds, we are actively looping on that thought. But I found it helpful, like women, especially with women, it's much easier to sit with like a tingling in my left hand than it is to sit with, you know, the thought of I'm feeling anxious.

Speaker 2:

I'm feeling anxious. Yes, start to kind of pull that apart. So that's one thing that I do with clients to help them start to be comfortable with their body, start to be comfortable with their body and once we have that opening, that's when we will go on a little, you know, meditation journey and start tuning in with like, okay, is there anything that the heart has to say right now? Or the belly like wherever they might have some extra sensation. We'll kind of stay there for a minute and just start to gently pull and see what's there.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, because we really do hold our emotions in our body.

Speaker 2:

We do Absolutely.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, and, and sometimes we need to get them out of there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, and it's like building it's you, it's like creating a toolkit that we can actually use, that makes us feel safe as we do that exploration Because that's a huge part of why so many people and so many women are so disconnected and disembodied is it doesn't feel safe to be in our bodies and we have so much programming, right, that tells us we're too much, we're too this, we're too that, and why do we want to be in these homes that we have when we're being told all? And why do we want to be in these homes that we have when you know we're being told all this misinformation about how actually beautiful, sacred and intelligent and wise they are right? We're kind of trained out of trusting our gut and trusting our intuition, right, it's like no, listen to everybody else, no, you know, but you're not going to trust your own intuition if you don't have that connection and if you don't feel safe to do that. So that's another thing. Yes, clients is building the safety relationship with the body.

Speaker 1:

I listened to a lot of YouTube stuff and I don't remember who said it, but this was maybe last week and what this person said I don't remember if it was a man or woman, but it's just coming back to me and what they said was that the future in healing is going to be not in our brains, but using our gut.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, I mean that's why I'm, like I said in the beginning, I'm kind of obsessed with this work. Yes, yes, because I do. I think the body is the next frontier, like we've done so much with the mindset and it's talked about in the beginning that that growth, mindset and outlook on life hugely, hugely important and the body to me is like the next frontier of exploration and I think people are just starting to understand the power.

Speaker 2:

If you think about it, like look how much our head occupies of our body, yes, no it's like 10, 20 maybe, yeah, at least 80 of our intelligence is in the body that so many people don't have access to. So that's's like the joy of what I feel like I get to do is help people reconnect to so much more of this, more energy, more aliveness, and then that's bring through in the world, in their relationships, in their work, you know, in their health and vitality, and so it really impacts every area of life.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely. And I think too, when you said energy, that really hits home with me because I think that you know we have a choice we can get up and shuffle our feet and keep our shoulders down, or we can walk more quicker, quickly, you know, stand taller. And it's funny because I've actually been doing this lately, because I noticed I'm getting a little bit older and I notice I'm slowing down a little bit and I thought a little bit slower than I used to, and then I thought, well, do I really have to move that? Like I really was giving it some thought. And so now I stand up taller, I walk quicker, I feel better, I feel more energy just doing that than I did kind of. You know the word puttering? Yeah, you know it's. Yeah, it's beautiful. Yeah, I think that I think we as women get quite detached from ourselves.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we do. But I love that you, I love that you had the awareness of that and you took the action. Like that's a huge thing I always work on with clients as well is awareness is the first step, like absolutely you can't do anything if you don't have the awareness about it. Yes, but also nothing happens, nothing changes if you don't take action. And so I love that you both had the awareness of like hey, I'm not feeling so great, and then you took the action and you followed through. And I will say that that combination of awareness and action, when you actually take the action and follow it through, it's how we build trust with ourselves, which is how we build safety for ourselves, and so you're doing that beautiful wave and that's that is how you have more connection to your body, because you're building that trust and you're building that safety, and it's just so beautiful.

Speaker 1:

Oh, thank you, Thank you. So I want to talk to you a little bit about your retreats. So what is it that you're? What kind of retreats do you hold? What is it that you're? What is it that you do?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so right now I'm not doing a retreat, I think until likely the fall. The thing I'm doing right now that I'm so excited about are these workshops. I do virtual and in-person workshops, and my favorite one right now is called the C and B Scene Club, so I spell it S-A-B-S. Sabs is like the acronym for C and B Scene, and this is all about. This workshop is all about right now. They're in person, so I'm based in LA, so I have one coming up on this Thursday.

Speaker 2:

I don't know when this episode will come out, but they're going to be monthly, if not more than monthly, and then I'm creating the virtual version of it too, so I'm excited to be able to bring it out into the world. But this workshop is all about the transformative power that comes from when we really go a layer deeper with each other and we meet the need that we have as humans, right? We literally are born with an intrinsic need to be seen and known and valued, and so much of the suffering on the planet right now actually, when you think about the loneliness epidemic, that we have rising rates of suicide, more people than ever experiencing depression and anxiety so much of that suffering is caused by this intrinsic human need to feel seen and known and valued, not being met not being met, known and valued not being met, not being met.

Speaker 2:

And so this workshop is part educational, part experiential and, like totally transformational, because it gives people the tools and the skills and the opportunity to practice this, what I call a superpower, which is the. You know, it's a superpower to really see somebody for who they are, at their core, for all their gifts and talents and magic, but also for their humanity and their complexity and their struggles. And when people are seen in that way, it is like the most nourishing nutrient you know that we can really receive as humans, and it can change our lives, like it really can activate things inside of us that give us the confidence and the clarity to do the things we might not do if we weren't seen in that way. And so I'm just, it's like. It's like workshop is lighting me up right now. So are we?

Speaker 2:

So are you teaching women to see themselves? Yes, it's a, it's kind of a part, so it's one. Ourselves yes, it's kind of three parts, so it's one how to see yourself, and I will say that so much of how we see ourselves is how others see us, and so, yeah, so the second part is learning how to see each other accurately. And then the third part is how to receive and this one can be a hard one for people is how to actually be vulnerable and open up and like let yourself be seen, right, so it's.

Speaker 1:

You're learning all three sides of that how to see yourself, how to see another and how to let yourself be seen, ah beautiful and what a transformation for women that have trouble, because I think, you know, we tend to get shut down in society, sometimes Absolutely, and in all different ways and different areas, and so then we do lose sight of who we are, and sometimes with compliments even, you know, people can't sometimes take them because they don't, they feel they don't deserve them, or you know that kind of thing.

Speaker 1:

So I think, like how beautiful it is, and when I think and when, what I love about women is that and men are fabulous, of course they are, but of course you men are, but but I but I'm a woman, so I work with women. But what I love about us is that when we see the light, when we wake up, when we get like an aha moment, we don't just keep it to ourselves and that's the wonderful thing, right, so we're, so we're not only learning and healing and growing, but then we we share it with our girlfriends and we may not even in with our families. We issues are that we have. Then we can pass on that health to our kids. They see it, our spouses see it, our friends see it, our community workers see it, and sometimes people want what you've got.

Speaker 2:

Totally, I mean two things come to mind as you're talking what you've got. Totally, I mean two things come to mind as you're talking. The first thing is the nature of women is collaborative. Yes, it's collaborative, and we have been in this patriarchal society. That is all about competition, because that is men's nature and it worked for a time. Right, the competition didn't work like when you know, when we needed it, on the planes and all of that. But so many women have been trained into competition in order to think that's what they need to survive. But the true nature of women is collaboration and cooperation. And so when I hear you talking about, yeah, we don't keep it to ourselves, because we understand that when we get wisdom, all women rise. If they know this wisdom, you know, so we want to share it. We want the collaborative nature of women to rise.

Speaker 2:

And so I love that you shared, that, because that's true, that's our essence, that's who we are.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, oh, go ahead. No, I'm just going to say and I appreciate you explaining it eloquently because, so that they can understand it, while whoever's listening can understand, and, yeah, and hopefully help to get collaborative with some females out there- yes, yes.

Speaker 2:

And the other thing that you said that I love so much is you know, I use this expression with my clients that you have to be 100% responsible for 50% of any relationship. Right, I'll say that again, right, you have to be 100% responsible for your 50% of any relationship dynamic. Absolutely yes. And what I heard you saying too is that when you take responsibility for your own learning and wisdom and knowledge and shift your own energy, it will change every single relationship dynamic that you're in right.

Speaker 2:

People notice it if you are doing your part, and it's not about fixing, changing anybody else, but they will feel the impact if you're doing the work on your side.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely, Absolutely, and, and I I've got a girlfriend who's who's just, she's had a few marriages, and but she finally woke up and said I'm the common denominator here. That's beautiful ownership yeah, yeah yeah and so there. So therefore, sure, you know these people had their issues, but why am I going to the same person with the same issues and then having the same person with the same issues and then having the same thing happening? I'm the common denominator. I need to get this fixed and I thought, yeah, love that.

Speaker 2:

Hey, listen, we need. We need to do a few rounds before we get the information you know for sure, absolutely, absolutely.

Speaker 1:

But I think and I think I love what you said that you have to take that 50% responsibility. You know you're not in a relationship by yourself. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, 100% responsibility for your 50%.

Speaker 1:

For your 50%. Oh, sorry, yeah, that's what I meant. Yeah, yeah, absolutely yeah, wow, well, can you give us a little bit of advice? What? How can individuals stay connected in this fast paced world that we're living in?

Speaker 2:

Oh, that's a great question, oh, my goodness. Okay, so all right, I'm. This is on my mind from this morning, so I'm just going to share this because it's fresh. So one of the exercises that we do at the Sabs Club, which is ultimately all about connection, it's a game called I Wonder, and it's actually my friend, kevin. He did it at a workshop and I said to him after I said that's an amazing exercise, can I use it in mine? And we've been collaborating and it's been wonderful.

Speaker 2:

So this game is called I Wonder and it's a question game where you get to wonder anything you want about the person next, like across from you, right, and the fun part is, if you were to play this game, like with someone, it could be virtually, it could be on the phone, it could be in person. So what you'll do is you'll spend a minute, about a minute, and you can ask them any question that you want, and the catch is they're not going to respond. They don't have to answer any of them. So you can really ask anything. And then it switches and they get to ask any question that they want, and it's so fun to see what kind of curiosities arise and, at the very end. What we like to do is you get the you know. You get the opportunity to then answer any of the questions that you want, but you learn so much more about people and can feel so much more connected to them by removing the surface layer question of just like hey, how are you Right?

Speaker 2:

And then you're not really listening for a response. Yes, Right.

Speaker 2:

The way to build connection that comes from curiosity, which is one of the main pillars of connection, is being genuinely curious about somebody else. Yes, it's just a fun way and what I have found is, you know, this morning, like I was playing this game with a friend and as I was making my bed, I was like I wonder if they make their bed every day. You know, when I was, I was making my coffee. I wonder how they take their coffee. So you start building this connection with people even if you're not in direct relationship with them in the moment.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

It starts building this, this like really sweet connection, that you're thinking of them more often and they are thinking of you, and then the next time you talk it's like you want to get into the deeper questions, you know. So it builds this connection that's just I've been finding so fun.

Speaker 1:

Oh, it sounds like fun. It sounds like a lot of fun. Wow, well, I just love having this conversation with you and I think that you know you're what you're doing is is so needed. It's just so needed out there. And, yeah, we need to get connected not only with other people, but with ourselves absolutely, absolutely, yeah.

Speaker 2:

So number one yeah connection?

Speaker 1:

yeah, oh for sure. So for anybody who's watching or listening, we are going to have all of Dana's information is going to be in the details section, so there'll be links there to reach out to her and she'll have a bit of a bio there for you to learn a little bit more. So so all of that will be there. So before we go, I have five questions that I love to ask my guests. I got to reach over here and get them and I'm wondering do you mind if I ask this is my game?

Speaker 2:

I'm just going to say you do the question game, let's go, okay.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So if you could travel anywhere in the world tomorrow, where would you go and why are you going to go there?

Speaker 2:

Okay, great. So Croatia has been on my mind for some reason I love waterfalls. I love them, and that place is just filled with epic, epic beautiful waterfalls, and so I think that's where I would go, just to that water be in that nature.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that would be beautiful. Love it. Do you have a favorite book that inspires you?

Speaker 2:

Oh, my goodness, I could probably name a few, but one that I love is a book by a woman named Priya Parker, okay, and it's called the Art of Gathering. Oh my goodness, she is fantastic and she really talks about how much better our in-person, virtual I mean it could be any kind of gathering, but the difference it makes when you do, when you create a gathering with a deep, meaningful purpose and walk you through how to create, step-by-step, a gathering that really resonates for people, really makes people feel like they're there for a reason. And it's a fantastic book that I use a lot in, you know, when I'm creating workshops or retreats and things like that, I pull from that book a lot.

Speaker 1:

Oh wow, I learned so much from doing podcasts. I'm just like I'm so lucky. I'm just so lucky, Okay. So if you could have dinner with any woman in the world, who would it be and why? Or in history, who would it be and why? That's a great question.

Speaker 2:

So I'm going to say my mother's mother died when my mom was four, so I never got to meet her and my mom didn't really get to know her. And so I think it's Mother's Day is like around the corner, and so I've been feeling into that, you know, feeling into the fact that I never got to know who she was and sort of know how she would have shaped my mother's life and how that would have shaped my life. And so I think, yeah, getting to sit down and just like know who she was and just know that she's part of my lineage would be a beautiful person.

Speaker 1:

That would be so beautiful, wouldn't it? Wow, that would be great. Okay, if you could whisper one truth into the ear of every woman who's listening right now and they're struggling, what would you say?

Speaker 2:

Okay, and they're struggling. That might change my answer, because there's something that's been coming up recently. Maybe I'll say two, would that be?

Speaker 2:

okay, yeah, absolutely yes For anybody listening and I do believe this, whether you're struggling or not, but I really do believe women know, you know, and it's like you know. It's back to that thing where we get so trained out on knowing and then sometimes we get scared to really go to that place of knowing because we don't like that. It means that we're probably going to have to change something in our life. But if we don't listen to that knowing, we will be off track. You know everything we're doing that's not coming from being in integrity with that. Knowing will not create a satisfying life, you know. So it's like whether it's whether what you know feels amazing or if it feels like, oh, that's so scary, I don't want to admit that. I know that there is a power in admitting what you know, so maybe I'll leave it at that. But well, that's speaking your truth, that is.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, wow, that was beautiful. I appreciate that. I appreciate the whole conversation, dana, thank you so much.

Speaker 1:

Everyone. Remember, if you want to reach out to Dana, her information is going to be in the detailed section of the video and of the podcast, and don't be shy, because I'm sure she'd love to speak with you and if you're in the LA area, maybe you're going to get to drop into one of her in person workshops. So that was that. Sounds exciting too. Well, thanks again. I appreciate you being here and let's do this another time as well, I would love to Julie.

Speaker 2:

this is fabulous.

Speaker 1:

Thank you, okay you're welcome, okay, bye, bye, everybody.

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