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CHERYL BISHOP - RESILENT WOMEN IN BUSINESS

Julie Fairhurst Episode 104

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This episode shares Cheryl Bishop's incredible journey and insights on resilience, empowerment, and the importance of community among women.

Meet Cheryl – a powerhouse entrepreneur with a lifetime of experience in business growth and empowerment. From watching her father navigate various ventures to embarking on her entrepreneurial journey at the tender age of 12, Cheryl's story is one of resilience, determination, and unwavering passion.

Imagine learning from someone who's walked the entrepreneurial path since childhood, from macramé ventures to newspaper routes, MLMs to direct selling businesses. Cheryl's diverse background is a testament to her entrepreneurial spirit. Cheryl's diverse background is a testament to her entrepreneurial spirit and her ability to adapt and thrive in any business landscape.
But Cheryl's journey doesn't stop there. She's been a driving force behind the scenes, instrumental in building a prestigious business academy across Canada, nurturing its reputation and fostering a dedicated following for over a decade. Yet, her true calling emerged when she discovered her passion for supporting women in business.

But Cheryl's journey doesn't stop there. She's been a driving force behind the scenes, instrumental in building a prestigious business academy across Canada, nurturing its reputation, and fostering a dedicated following for over a decade. Yet, her true calling emerged when she discovered her passion for supporting women in business. 

With Cheryl by your side, you're not just getting a mentor – you're gaining a champion dedicated to your success. Her mission is clear: to empower women to unlock their full potential, become resilient, confident, and self-reliant entrepreneurs. Through Cheryl's guidance, you'll learn to build your business on solid foundations that withstand the test of time.

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Who is Julie Fairhurst?
Julie Fairhurst – Speaker, Author, and Founder of Women Like Me

Julie Fairhurst is a champion for women’s empowerment and the founder of the Women Like Me Book Program. Since 2019, she has published 30 books and 300+ true-life stories—at no cost to the writers—giving women a platform to heal, inspire, and reclaim their power. Dedicated to breaking generational trauma one story at a time, Julie’s mission is to uplift women emotionally and financially, helping them create better lives for themselves and their families.


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Hello everyone, thank you so much for being here. I'm very excited to have you here and get into a great conversation with our guests. So I am your host, julie Fairhurst, and you are watching Conversations with Women Like Me, stories and Business. So today we are speaking with Cheryl Bishop. Now, cheryl, well, I'm I'm impressed by Cheryl, what Cheryl's been doing in the world, so so you were going to want to stick around and hear what she has to say. You're going to learn all sorts of interesting and and helpful things from Cheryl. So, cheryl, thank you so much for being here today. I just really appreciate it. Oh, my, my absolute pleasure for being here today. Thank you, julie, for inviting me. Oh, you're welcome.

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So, cheryl, why don't we start off by you just telling everybody a little bit about yourself? All right, well, my name is Cheryl Bishop. I have two grown boys, so a mother, a wife, a business owner. There's what I've learned in life is how powerful the mindset or chatter that happens in our mind. So I have overcome a lot of challenges in my life. Many times we don't know somebody else's story, and my last conference, actually, julie, that I had for the women, I shared a real intimate story that most people don't know about me, and I cannot believe how many women came up to me and said that story was for me, because many times people look at me and go, oh you, you, you know you. Just everything you do is so great. Well, sure, I had to learn how to do things and I had to overcome a lot of obstacles in my life. So, um, I just I loved, cheryl, that you said that, because, of course, I'm all about stories and books and and women's stories, and that's why we tell stories to help others and and people. When we tell our story, we never know who we're going to help or who we're going to be able to touch, and so, just by you mentioning that little bit, I appreciate that it is so important for us as women to share our stories with each other, absolutely Because it could be a word of wisdom, it could be oh, I'm not alone. I've been there myself. How do I get out of it? Like? We all learn off each other, and that's why I'm so passionate about for women being in a community, because we learn from each other and I just in within my own community. I see it all the time and I love that part. And are there times I've been scared to share? Oh yeah, because you're very vulnerable in sharing these things that happen in life. Yes, right, yes, absolutely yeah, yeah.

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Well, let's go from story starting off into your business. So I'm really curious what inspired you to start your business, which I don't think I mentioned it. It's some resilient women in business. So what inspired you to get started? Well, that's a bit of a story. So I was building a business academy back in the day. We started in 2009 with a friend of mine at the time and we built it across Canada to Calgary and Toronto, and then in 2017, my whole world started to rock. My there was no guarantee on my income, just everything.

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And I'm pretty spiritual, I'm connected to God. I always you know here, where should I go in my life? So I went through a real turmoil, meaning, here I am in my life building this. Now what's my next step? Because God was telling me to leave and I didn't want to leave. It was like a divorce. It was really difficult, like I went through all the emotions just like a divorce, and then I was going okay, god, where do you want me? Where do you want me?

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And I started hearing one word, and that one word was resilient. I'd be taking my dog for a walk, I'd hear it over and over again. I'd be at the grocery store or driving down the street, and I'd hear the same word resilient. So then one day I said okay, what does this word resilient mean? And I heard my intuition stand up and speak to me and say Cheryl, you're resilient, but this word is not about you. So then I started going. Okay, now I need to be a part of women's groups, I need to get back out in the marketplace, because I used to travel a lot through North America speaking at conference, doing education events in Calgary and Toronto, so I never had a schedule that was consistent and so I really had to go. Okay, I needed to be in the group of women to really understand what I'm supposed to do. And then it morphed into I'm supposed to start a business called Resilient Women in Business. And so the first thing I did is one day and this is all about listening listening to the voice that is, it wants to guide you in life, whether you believe in God, holy Spirit, higher power, angels, whatever the belief system is for your listeners, julie, is that the more we listen and do take action. Opportunities and possibilities happen, possibilities happen.

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So it was back in 2017 when I was going through all this. It was turmoil inside and I was driving down 192 street towards white rock in British Columbia. Driving driving beautiful, sunny day and all of a sudden, I had this thought pull over and do a Facebook live. And I totally could have went. You don't need to do a Facebook live. I don't know what you're going to say. All the chatter, yeah, but it felt like there was almost an energy on top of my hands to make sure I was pulling over. And this is what started Resilient Women in Business.

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I pulled over, did a Facebook live and this is what I said to all you women entrepreneurs out there I just want to let you know I'm your biggest cheerleader. God's doing something here in my life. I have no idea what it is, but I feel like I'm supposed to support you somehow. So I just felt so compelled to pull over and just tell you I am your biggest cheerleader, and that's pretty much all I said. Well, that gave me. I'm sorry, that gives me shivers. I love that. That gave me. I'm sorry, that gives me shivers. I love that. Yes, when I did that.

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I had 10 women private message me and said Cheryl, when you know what you're going to do, let me know. So two weeks later I thought, okay, this is what I'm going to do. I am going to build a mastermind group of 10 women. I don't even know what I'm going to educate on, but we're going to study the book Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill, which, by the way, is a classic book. Yes, so for your listeners, julie, if they've never listened to Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill, I'd highly recommend it. I'm probably on my seventh time listening and reading to it right now. Yeah, and I said to the women OK, this is what we're going to do. I'm going to build a mastermind. We're going to study the book think and grow rich. We're going to meet every second Tuesday for seven months. It's 20 bucks a meeting. Are you in or are you out? And all 10 said I'm in.

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Wow, and that's how I built it as I was going. I did not build it first. I was very honest, was my first group and my first group. After the first seven months, they go. What can we do next? They kept, they stayed with me that we actually studied the book Think and Grow Rich four times, wow, wow, for two years, cause it was six months. Six months, two years. And that's when I like, okay, god, what am I to do next? And that's when all the downloads came in for me. Dreams that I was like whoa, monthly events I was supposed to do came in a dream. So much came in a dream, wow, Wow, that is. I love that and I love that you listened, because so often we get these little nudges and and sometimes it's thrown right in our face and out of fear, maybe people don't move forward or they don't listen. But this is what happens when you do people. So listen, listen to that little inner voice.

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Cheryl, can I ask you how do you define resilience? Oh, that's a big one. I think we could do a whole day seminar on resilience, because resilience is really pushing through, looking at the next level of who do I want to become, even as a woman, as a wife, as a become. It's working towards that, no matter what challenges come our way or obstacles come our way, it's being persistent and determined to talk in a group. I was so shy, I was so painfully shy that when I was probably what 18, I got a hold of alcohol. Why? Because once I got a hold of alcohol, I was like that was courage juice for me. I couldn't believe that I could actually start talking to people because I was so shy. So resilience is really pushing through. And then, of course, then I had an addiction with alcohol and then I had to learn how to let go of that addiction. So it, resilience, is constantly looking at how do I become better, how do I build my business better, how do I become a better human being, like it's pushing through all of what life happens, or even our self-doubt. It's all our oh, I'm not good enough, oh, I'm not worthy enough, oh, I can't do that All of these negative thoughts that every human being has. Yeah, yeah, it's pushing through all that. Yeah, well, when you first started out, I'm assuming, there obviously were struggles, just like all of us. And so what's one piece of advice that you wish somebody would have been able to give you when you were starting out?

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The story of in Napoleon Hill's book Think and Grow Rich three feet from gold. So what ended up happening back in the gold mining days is there was a guy that bought all this equipment and he knew there was a gold vein in this particular area, and so he mined it, mined it, mined it and then he gave up. He quit. He sold his equipment to next to nothing just to get out of debt. He had to borrow money from his family and they all believed in him. That's why they lent him the money, but then he quit. The next guy that bought his machinery decided to hire somebody that knows about the earth, and they recognize this gentleman. The first one was only three feet from gold. Yeah, meaning never quit, never quit, yeah, yeah. Love that, that's great. Love the story. Love that that's great. Love the story. That's awesome. Um, so?

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So you focus on community and um and mentorship. So how do you think that those two things can impact women? How can it help women? Well, I'm a huge educator for women in business. That's for sure, because we can constantly learn, and I gotta share this because I know I'm not alone in this. I's for sure because we can constantly learn and I got to share this because I know I'm not alone in this. I was thinking when I went for a walk this morning in the snow that we have here.

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I was thinking about when I was younger and how I never liked to read and I was thinking, oh my gosh, cheryl, just think about when you were 18, in school, I never read a complete novel because here's why Words, the words that were too big. I was so embarrassed, I didn't know how. They were just too big for me and I couldn't pronounce them. I was never very well in grammar in school, I really was not, and so I avoided books because they scared me. And then I remember my very first novel, I think I was 19. A girlfriend of mine suggested just read this novel and I read it. And first novel I think I was 19,. A girlfriend of mine suggested just read this novel and I read it and I thought, wow, that was a really good novel. And then, from novels, I only read really one.

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Then it took me decades to start picking up mindset books and books that, like Napoleon Hill, think and grow rich, and so many more that are brilliant books out there. And I realized okay, cheryl, you have stopped yourself from knowledge, and knowledge is man. I tell you, one of the biggest things we can learn about our life to me is our minds, how it works, our humanness how it works and our finance, because those are the things that we deal with every moment of every day. Yeah, absolutely. So going back to your question, julie, because I didn't really know that's what I was thinking. I don't think she. I love what you had to say, but, yeah, I don't think you answered it.

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So we all I believe, in a sense of all of us human beings, and especially women we support each other differently than, honestly, the opposite sex. Men do, yes, and women I see that we network differently. We are really a lot of us are caregivers. So what I mean by that is when a girlfriend needs help, we'll say where do you want me to be, and when I'll help you, right. If somebody goes for surgery, I'll make a meal for you, like we. It doesn't have to cost money that we do, but we'll do you want me to be, and when I'll help you, right, if somebody goes for surgery, I'll make a meal for you, like we. It doesn't have to cost money that we do, but we'll. Do you need a ride to the airport? I'll do that for you. So women are very supportive and because we're very supportive, we really need each other, because sometimes we get in our own way yes, we do Right. So community is so important, especially the day we live in this world, when we're by ourselves in our own minds, that can be very dangerous. Yes, it can, right. Yes, when we're in a group of women with great energy.

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Oh my gosh, I don't know how many times I've experienced this myself. I almost didn't go to a meeting and then I pushed myself to go it, to go to the meeting Cause I think to myself I don't know if there's a gold nugget, and I go, and I'm so glad I went. Yes, yeah, do you? Did you ever, or do you now, even experience imposter syndrome? I think that that's a big one that women have to overcome. Oh my gosh, it so is. That's getting in our own way. It really is. And do I still do it? Yeah, because sometimes I go to myself. The thought says who do you think you are? How do you think you can pull this off? And I have to stop it in its track going. Well, my gosh, if God's gifting me my innate wisdom or my, let's say, sacred gifts that I have, because we all have different fingerprints, meaning that we're all so different that we have our own way of doing something, why would I deny that? So it's constant conversation with myself, there's many times that imposter syndrome creeps in. Now, the more what I can share is, the more that I train my mind to not go down that path, the less the imposter syndrome comes in. So how would you, how would you, what kind of? What kind of tips would you give to any women that might be listening or watching on YouTube and they're feeling like like who do I think I am trying to to do this or what? What kind of tips would you give them? Or words of encouragement? Yes, so well.

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Number one is understanding how the mind works, because once we understand and we're aware of something, that's where change can happen. Yes, right Now. I did not know decades ago, I did not understand how negative I was to myself until I went to a seminar on leadership and they talked about mindset, and that was the first time I'm like what is mindset? And so this is this is probably in 1997. And the exercise was really interesting for me because this was my first awareness of my mind is she said to us why don't you put an elastic band around your wrist and every time you hear yourself talk negative to yourself or self-doubt creeps in, pull the elastic band so that you can be aware of what you're saying and then shift it in that moment. Yes, I took that on and I can tell you, julie man, did I have a lot of welts on my wrist, a lot. But that was my first awareness of how powerful my mind was.

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And it's not just my mind, it's all of our minds. We all are dealing with the humanness of who we are. It's not Cheryl Bishop, it's not Julie, it's not Tammy or Linda, it's the humanness that we all deal with. Yes, right, yes, once we're aware of that. Now there's two parts of the brain that we have. One is like our patterns, or the survival side of our brain that wants to keep us safe. It wants to quit this or work on our diet, all of these new things that we want to bring into our life. Well, it's a cheerleader for us. The side of the mind that wants to keep us safe, or that's familiar, wants to keep pulling us back because it doesn't like us being in a sense of a little bit of fear. It doesn't like us going into that mode. Well, that is unsure. I don't know how it's going to turn out. So can you just keep yourself safe here? So we battle with that all the time. Every human being does, whether we realize it or not. It's all the time Every human being does, whether we realize it or not. It's all science proven. And so when we understand that, that is when we can change things.

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Here's a real simple example when my kids were little, all the bedrooms were upstairs in a house that we lived in, and so I'd put things on the stairs. So the next time I go upstairs, I take it upstairs. How many times did I walk past those things and did not take them upstairs? Oh, probably hundreds of times, yeah. And then I had to be aware oh, cheryl, okay, how many times have you gone up and down the stairs today and you did not take the kid's toy or something that needed to go up in the office or something that needed to go upstairs? Too many times, so I had to talk myself. So then what I had to do is stop. Stop. There's times where I go upstairs and I stop in the middle of stairs back up, because now I have to change my behavior, change my thought pattern, and go back, pick it up, cheryl, and take it upstairs. Yeah, so I had to train myself through that.

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So that's just a real simple example of how powerful the mind is, because my mind kept saying do it later, do it later, do it later. Yes, well, I think we hear and I might not have my stat exact, but I think we hear. I think I can't remember exactly, but like 70,000 negative, we have 70,000 negative thoughts a day entering into our brain and we and those thoughts are repetitive. So what you're negatively thinking today, you're going to be negatively thinking tomorrow and a week from now, and six months from now and a year from now if you don't consciously try to change them. And the and that comes from childhood, that comes from bullies, that comes from you know a teacher that said something that stuck with us, and and it just all builds up. So so it's so important, our mindsets, and it's so important that that we consciously are aware of what's going on in there and know that we can fix it.

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But we have to overpower it with more positive thoughts than negative ones. A hundred percent. It's like a muscle. So, when we really understand, how do we build a muscle, an actual muscle, when we go to the gym? Sometimes muscles have to be well we, okay. Here's another prime example I go to the gym. I haven't gone to the gym in years and years. And I go to the gym, I go work out, and then I'm more sore a couple of days after, like I could barely walk. I'm like holy cow, what the heck's going on? Like, this is painful. Yeah, it's because our muscles have to go through that transition. Yes, to get strong. Yeah, so does our minds, yeah, right.

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So here's another story that probably people can relate to is because you said a lot of this comes from our childhood, and it absolutely does, yeah. So I'll give you one example of my belief system that I didn't believe I was smart enough, and it came from when I was eight years old. I was eight years. I'll never forget it. I remember it in my mind's eye like it was yesterday.

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I'm sitting at the dining room table the kitchen table at my parents, of course at my home, and my dad's sitting on one side of the table and I'm sitting on the other side and I'm coloring in my coloring books. I used to love to color and I would sit there and color all day long, and my dad only went to grade six because his parents owned a dairy farm and so he had to work on the farm. So he didn't go past grade six. Yes, my dad's writing a letter and my mom is behind him in the kitchen preparing dinner so innocent. So here's what happened. My dad said writing a letter and my mom is behind him in the kitchen preparing dinner so innocent. So here's what happened. My dad said to my mom, may, which is her name, how do you spell car? Is it with an E or without an E? And my mom giggles, innocent, and goes oh Gordon, it's without an E.

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But here's what happened to me in my little mind. You see, I was always told when I was younger, and even today, I look like my mom, but everything else about me is my dad. I am the apple doesn't far far from the tree. I am so much like my dad, like me and my dad go. I can't believe how much we're alike. So when I'm told that as a young person and I hear my dad can't spell car, here's what happened in my mind. My mind went he doesn't know how to spell car. You're just like your dad. Yeah, clunk went in. You're not smart enough. Yeah, my parents didn't know that was happening. It happened in my mind. Yes, yes, the whole scenario in my mind.

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I accepted at eight years old that I am not smart enough. And when I accepted that, I totally struggled in school. You know, there might've been guys I wanted to date in high school and I felt I wasn't smart enough that I battled with yeah Now the reason I'm sharing that story is going back to building the muscle right. So every time I thought, when I identified that that was in my subconscious mind in 2005, I went to a personal growth seminar and I was like Whoa, I accepted that false belief. And then after that in 2005, I kept.

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Every time it creeped in, I'd almost stand up and go into the power pose. You know the wonder woman pose. No, ladies, whoever's listening power pose is powerful. So you stand in the power pose with your arms on your hips and your shoulders back and your feet wide, hip width apart, and you, you. I said to myself anytime the thought would come in you're not smart enough, cheryl, you're not smart enough to do that. I would go. Who said stand in the power pose? Who said that? And then I go? I'm the only one that said that and then I go. How do I know that to be true? That is not true. I am not accepting that any longer and I would kick it to the curb. Go to hell, where you belong. You don't serve me, and I had to do that over.

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All of us have had parents who have innocently said something and stuck sticks with us, but it wasn't meant to be to you. But but that's it. We take it on. We take that on because those are our parents. We take on all of that. You know I wanted to. You do a lot of networking and you run networking groups, and so can you tell the women out there that are maybe afraid of networking or don't know what networking is all about? It's important to network 100%. It's so important to network. Not only are we getting ourselves out there.

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So here's another story when I, when we were building the business academy in 2009, we did not have a website, because websites way back then was like 10 grand. We didn't have the money. We were starting a business academy and we didn't even know we were starting a business academy at that time. All we had was sales training at that time. So I knew we both knew we had to go out there and network because that was the way strong, like what do you do Get to know your own neighbors, get to know your own community, cause nobody knew what education we had available.

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And I can tell you I did not. I didn't have the skill of networking. Now I basically can say, and I'm almost an expert I don't want like to use the expert, but I'm very, very, very, very good at networking now. But was I back then? No, and I had to learn. In fact, I would lie when I would go to a networking event. Number one I would sit in my car and wait till it started and then I'd go in and then I'd find a seat to sit down. And then at the end, when it was pretty much over and it was networking time, I was so scared If I was talking to somebody, I'd look at my watch and go oh, I got to go, I have an appointment. I did not have an appointment. Yeah, I didn't, but I didn't know what else to do because I didn't know how to communicate effectively.

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So networking is one of the biggest personal growths you can do. And number two you get to know your community and people get to know you. Number three this day and age more than ever, is the like, know and trust factor alive? Yes, why? Why is it so much important these days? Because there are so many. We know fake news is around. We know there's a lot of people we can't trust. Yes, we, you know so many people have been burned for X, y, z. So the trust factor is huge.

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And what I know for women for sure is absolutely, when we get to like, know and trust someone, it is easier for us to refer people. And the only way to like, know and trust is not to show up at a networking event once or twice like it's safe at the Chamber of Commerce. If you want people to like, know and trust, you've got to show up regularly. Yes, no, business happens right off the bat Regularly. Yes, no, business happens right off the bat, it's building those relationships. So networking is so critical for success because you can learn like I had to learn how to network. It was a process for me, and was I good at it at the beginning? No, but how do you get good at something? You always have to be okay at something before you become good, and then you have to be good at something before you can become professional, a pro right. That's the only process, absolutely, absolutely. You gain so much confidence, so much confidence. I hear it all the time that women say, wow, by networking, I gained so much confidence. Yeah, I believe that it's important as well, absolutely.

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So what's one message to a woman who might be feeling stuck? What's what's? What is something that they could, that they can do if they're feeling stuck and I don't know, like, like you know, stuck in in a in business, or stuck in life, or in life, or Well, that's a big one too. So, basically, as easy as it is, things sound easier than to do right often. So the truth of getting stuck is what are we saying to ourselves when we pay attention? Oh, I can never find a client. There's power in words. If you can never find a client, you never will. So it's really, what are we saying to ourselves when nobody is listening?

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All my conferences and education that I do in a big like, if I speak at a different conference, or even at my own, I have and I have, let's say, 80 women or a hundred women in the room and I will ask them would any of you women in this room ever sleep with someone that puts you down, says you're not good enough, you're not smart enough, x, y, z? How many of you would? Okay, no, hands go up, right. Yeah, I wouldn't sleep with anybody with that. No way, I wouldn't sleep with anybody that puts me down. Okay, well then my question to you is what do you say to yourself when nobody else is listening? I'm stuck, I'm not good enough, I'm this, I'm that. I need to learn more.

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How do we get unstuck? It is in the doing. It's in the doing. How do we gain more confidence? It's in the doing. It's in the doing that we gain and we can move forward. Hey, I've been stuck on a lot of things in my life and again, it's because we're dealing. I'm not dealing with Cheryl Bishop, I'm dealing with the humanist, just like we all are. Yes, yes, so getting unstuck is one step at a time.

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Yes, when you hear yourself, if you want to adapt the elastic band idea, that's what I had to do to hear myself and to be aware of, wow, was I ever negative towards myself? You know, I was just going to say, cheryl, that is such a great idea. That to the elastic or whatever works for someone, because we don't realize that sometimes we're our own worst enemy. Oh, julie, sometimes you up to it every time you do it, because if you're, if you're just going around in this cloud, you might not be aware of what it is that you're doing. And then one day you got to wake up and go oh, now I see what I'm up to. And so learning, just like you said, to learn to overcome those things that we're doing to ourselves, yeah for sure, yeah, totally.

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I always say to women when I'm I don't classify myself as a coach and class I really love to educate, that's what I do. So I always I preach by. I preach by being observant and being aware of self. Yes, because we cannot change anything that we're not aware of. Yes, okay, for me, when I was drinking a ton, that's all like every day drinking, drinking, drinking. Because I didn't know how to process my feelings, I didn't know how to communicate effectively. Drinking alcohol made me suppress all my emotions and all of this and I had to learn to go through. Okay, when I got upset, do not go towards alcohol. It was a process and I had to fight with myself. So sometimes to get unstuck, we do have to fight with us ourselves. I had to become the CEO of Cheryl Bishop, which is stands for chief encouragement officer. That's what I love that. I do myself all the time. You can do this, yes, so getting unstuck, going back to that is being your biggest cheerleader, yeah, no, absolutely. Wow, Cheryl, you are just so inspirational and a wealth of knowledge and I just appreciate you so much being willing to share everything that you've been sharing with people that are listening or watching. I just love it.

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So, before we go on to close, I have some fun questions. I want to ask you Just a few, just to get to know Cheryl Bishop a little bit better. And I think I know the number, I think I know your number one answer, but I'm going to let you. I'm going to let you tell us so what is your favorite book that inspires you in your business or in your life? Oh, there's so many favorite books, to be honest. I mean, the classic book is Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill. That's a classic, and what I've learned is well, bob Proctor, who has passed on, he studied that book over 1500 times and built his empire on that book. Yes, and what I've recognized is this time, when I'm reading it and listening to it cause I do both I listen and I read is I'm getting different gold nuggets than I have before.

Speaker 1:

And to me that's all books. Yeah, breaking the Habit of being Yourself by Joe Dispenza, that is their incredible book. Love that book, yes, and even Worthy. Oh, there's so many good books, yeah. So, with books, when you find good books, even breaking, no, what's the other one? Atomic Habits by James Clear, that's another good one. I haven't read that one, but I've seen it. So many good books To not only read it once, like Breaking the Habit of being Yourself by Joe Dispenza.

Speaker 1:

To me, that is a life book for people to read and listen to all the time, because there's so many insights about the humanness that we're dealing with. And I think what happens with us is we read something and then we grow a little bit. With us is we read something and then we grow a little bit and then we read something and then we grow a little bit. And so when you go back and you're reading that book for the second or the third time, you're actually your brain has changed and you're allowing those new, those same thoughts that you read, but now you're allowing those thoughts to, to come into your brain and learn from them, where before maybe you were blocking them a little bit. So I agree, it's so important to read and then read it again and then listen to it, and there's always something you're going to get from that For sure.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, okay, if you could have dinner with any woman in history, who would you want to have dinner with? And why? Oprah? I just love her heart, I love all the things you know, and she she had to overcome a lot of battles in life. She sure did Like, if there are anybody, if you don't know her story, there's, look her up for her story, cause it's so incredible how she had to overcome so many obstacles and challenges in her life and I love that. She's um knowledge, cause she has. She reads books, she grabs books that are like the latest one is, uh, she with Mel Robbins. Oh, yes, her newest book, let them yes. And when I saw the interview I was like, wow, how incredible is that. And then I saw a video with Mel Robbins getting ready to be with Oprah and it was like her dream of life. She never thought she'd have an interview with the queen. Oh my gosh, she got so nervous. And I would say Oprah, because of all the things that she's done in life, for and she is such a great person of service for others that I just love her. Yes, yes, perfect.

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What is your favorite way to unwind after a busy day? Well, let's see, that's a good one. I think the biggest thing that I like to do is just have a quiet time, sit in front of the fireplace and just grab a beverage and just sit with myself and so reflection, reflection as I get older and and I want to say, wiser, because I certainly have gotten a lot wiser than my younger self. I'm completely different than what I was when I was younger. Yes, the wisdom that can drop in and when we are reflecting on ourself, there is so much power in that. So, really, reflection time. Yeah, I think that's that's so important. Okay, number four what is a favorite motivational quote that keeps you going?

Speaker 1:

Oh, wow, you've got good questions here. One of my quotes that I love is by Joel Osteen, when he says faith and fear have the same thing in common they both ask us to believe in something we cannot see. Oh, that is good, that is good. I love it, because anytime I feel fear of I'm scared to do it. Okay, then I turn my fear into faith that everything is going to work out. So I face the fear and walk through it. So I love that quote by Joel Osteen. That is a good one. Yeah, I listen to Joel Osteen all the time. I think he's great. Okay, my last one.

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So if you could travel anywhere in the world tomorrow, where would you go and why would you go there? Bora Bora, really, oh my goodness, bora Bora. Why? Well, I toured the South Pacific when I was how old? Was I 29,? I think it was Long time ago, decades ago. And so I was. So how old? Was I 29, I think it was Long time ago, decades ago. And so I was so close to Bora Bora I didn't even realize how close I was to Bora Bora. I never went.

Speaker 1:

And because I toured the South Pacific, so I went to Australia, new Zealand, fiji, hawaii. At home, I actually quit a job and thought, if I don't do it now, I'm never going it. And at the time I was with a gentleman from Australia, so we did. I was married and so I've been divorced before and uh. So we took off for six months and toured the South Pacific and I never went to Bora Bora. So I why? Because, number one, I didn't go, and number two, it looks stunning like the beaches. Does it ever? Yes, I personally never been, but I know some people who have, and that is top on the list. Top on the list, wow.

Speaker 1:

Well, so much, cheryl, for being willing to answer those fun questions and and being here and just sharing your knowledge and your inspiration with, with our listeners and, and, and people watching on YouTube. We, as women, need to inspire each other. It's so important and and be there to lift each other up and, and I know that anybody who listens to you watches this is going to be inspired. So thank you so much for doing this. Do you have anything?

Speaker 1:

Oh, before I ask you that question, I just want to let everybody know that if you want to reach out to Cheryl, we are going to have all her details in the detail section of the video and the podcast as well. Now, she's also got some lots of free resources on her website, so we'll have her website there as well. If you want to to head over there and and and there might be something there that helps you as well. Cheryl also does has many, many networking groups throughout the lower mainland in British Columbia, so if you are living here and you'd like to attend, or if you come visiting to our area and you would like to attend, she's going to have all of that information on her website, so it's really, really easy to to reach out to her and find her. So I just wanted everybody to know, to know that.

Speaker 1:

So, cheryl, before we go, any last words that you would like to share with our listeners and people who are watching. Well, I would say I believe in every single person that's listening to this that I believe that your birthright is to be successful, and for me, when I was younger, I hung on to somebody else's belief before I could believe in myself. So I would encourage whoever's listening that needs more belief in themselves to know that I believe in you. So hang on to my belief in you so that you can gain belief, Because I know that, especially as women, we are resilient, we are beautiful and really, most importantly, we truly are unstoppable. Unstoppable, yes, yes, we are. Oh, cheryl, thank you so much. You've left me with words of encouragement. I got all sorts of tasks I'm going to do today. Woo-hoo, away, I go. Well, thank you again. Again, everyone, for being here. I appreciate your support and um, and we will see you next time on conversations with women like me stories and business.

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